Dear people who make the "Fox News IS a legitimate news operation because hey if you read newspapers don't newspapers also have an OPINION section and that's all shows like Glenn Beck's and Bill O'Reilly's are, opinions!!!" argument:
goodreasonnews:
savagemike:
inothernews:
Stop being dolts. Newspapers relegate opinions and op-eds and “Your Voice”-type columns to one, two, three pages at most out of DOZENS of pages. DOZENS. Saying that Fox News is “just like a newspaper” is disingenuous and inaccurate at best AND YOU FUCKING KNOW IT. Shows helmed by Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly, Greta van Susteren, Sean Hannity, Mike Huckabee, Greg Gutfeld and even Fox & Friends are NOT HARD NEWS PROGRAMS. They are OPINION SHOWS and when you consider they account for about a fourth of a typical broadcast day the whole “Hey, newspapers have opinion pages too!” argument just EATS SHIT AND DIES.
So please, stop it with that shit, THAT STUPID SHITTY ARGUMENT, and in case you didn’t hear me the first time, STOP IT WITH THAT STUPID SHITTY ARGUMENT.
Thanks.
Not to mention that FOX News is always crowing about their ratings; but the vast majority of their ratings come during the hours that those shows are aired.
<Stands, appluads>
In addition, let me add that, even if we’re to accept that Fox’s pundits are only commentators, we’re then forced to discuss:
A) That Fox disingenuously reports the news then immediatly uses a block several hours long to ‘discuss’ the news (in a rather embarrassing way, mind you).
B) That the commentators seem to work in lockstep.
C) That, in an ultimate offense, Fox tells you that they report and then, after a long angry evening of punditry, tell you that YOU DECIDE!
You’ve got to be a fucking dullard to buy any of this stuff.
Here’s a little anecdote: Once I got into a discussion with an octogenarian about news and, in particular Fox. I told him what I knew about their methods of framing arguements and how they accept talking points directly from political ties and the harm they do to the news industry as a whole. He listened and at some points agreed, but when I asked him why he watched it anyway, when they were lying right to him, he simply said:
“They tell me what I want to hear.”
That was it. The conversation ended with that.
Any remaining claim FOX News could make about being an “objective” news channel were thrown out the second they cut off President Obama’s speech during the GOP Issues Conference, while every other news network aired the segment in full.